KLUG Weekly Meeting Notes

Tuesday, October 25, 2005



Master of Ceremonies – Adam Tauno Williams
Programmer / Operations – Jon Smitley

Tonight was the night! The celebration of the 5th year of Geek Jeopardy.
Jon Smitley put Open Source tools together with the game process to
create an application with a graphical user interface for the display of

the categories, points, and answers. It even handles the game scoring.
Back in October of 2001, on Halloween, KLUG members gathered in
Dunbar Hall on the WMU campus for what was being billed then as Open
Source Jeopardy. Adam Tauno Williams’ brainchild has become a KLUG
tradition. Adam and Jon worked hard, gave their time, and delivered

a night of great entertainment. Three cheers!

The competition was fierce again this year. The challenging questions
made it even more interesting. The lead was traded between the teams
due to risk taking. It was an apparent strategy to refrain from guessing.

Tyler and Mark controlled the board for several long point runs only
to stumble on high point guesses. John and Bruce played the "just
answer the ones you know for sure" game and that worked for them. Each
team demonstrated strength in the various categories.

Those Open Source tools Jon used were the best available for serious web
development. AMP stands for the Apache web server, the MySQL database,
and the widely-used general-purpose scripting language that is especially
suited for web development and can be embedded into HTML… known as PHP!

Eight large pizzas from Pizza Hut were devoured and there was a variety
of soda in 2-liter containers consumed. After two official feeding sessions
there were plenty of pop and pizza slices left.

The night was full of frivolity and laughter. There are many inside themes
in the Open Source / Linux universe and few escaped a remark or two. It

does make one wonder why there weren't more GEEKS in attendance for this.
We could have accommodated twice as many people with food, team membership,
and fun!!!

Team 1A - John Bridleman & Bruce Smith
Team 2B - Tyler Haske & Mark Jones
Team 3C - Andrew Thompson & John Sarma
Team 4D – Bill Hollett & Stuart Gillis <-- RETURNING CHAMPS!

Team 1A - 224
Team 2B - 216
Team 3C - 768
Team 4D - 30

Team 1A 225 <-- THE 2005 WINNERS! GO JOHN & BRUCE!!!

Team 2B ---

Each single jeopardy category contains an question worth
2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, and 256 points.
Each double jeopardy category contains an question worth
4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, and 512 points.

And of course, the final Jeopardy question. This year the
category was MALWARE! Team 1A got it right and team 2B,

confident in their guess, lost it all in that moment.

PHP – Everyone’s favorite web scripting language.
Geek Cinema - All the sci-fi and fantasy movies since the Geek
Jeopardy event last year, including any movie starring Sandra Bullock.
/etc - Anything and everything you'll find in /etc
Who Said - A quote, said by who?
SQL - How you talk to the box that knows.
Lucas - All about the saga that finally ended.
802.11 - Can you hack me now?
Math Mania - You knew you should have paid attention in High School.
IPC - Inter-Process Communications, the how, the why, and the
"Why the *@^*&$^*&@! doesn't it work!"
Stellar - Looking up.

/lib - libcidn.so.1 is what again?
LDAP - What you thought there wasn't going to be an LDAP category?
Hard Copy - Anything and everything to do with turning bits in RAM

to spots on paper.
Linus - The Man!
Apache Mod - All about what really makes Apache rock.
XML - Say it with me... "eXtensible Markup Language". Who needs
sliced bread when you have XML?
Java - Mmmmm, coffeeee.
Nano-Tech - Really really small stuff.
.NET - What Java should have been.
Jargon File - Oh yea! Everyone's favorite category.

(17 Linux Enthusiasts Attending)


Adam WIlliams Exchanges Laughs with the
Geek Jeopardy Contestants and Spectators.


PIZZA!!! There were as many pizzas as there
were eager and knowledgable contestants Posted by Picasa


Adam Williams was the Geek Jeopardy MC
and Jon Smitley handled the Software
Programming and Hardware Operation. Posted by Picasa

Tuesday, October 18, 2005


KLUG Open Discussion

Hosted by Eric Beversluis

The meeting format was an unstructured discussion of
Open Source Software and Linux. The topics included
OpenOffice.org, WINE, UPS software, etc. There were
a couple of people working on some task off to the side
but they still participated in the conversations.

Great night for getting ideas of where to look for more
information and tips on various IT solutions and software.
There was a question about SSH. www.openssh.com/
is a good resource. OpenSSH 4.2 was recently released.

Adam Williams gets credit for steering the technical
discussions for the evening. There were others who
actively shared their Open Source Software and Linux
experiences. The variety of opinions were interesting.

(14 Linux Enthusiasts Attending)


KLUG Open Forum Posted by Picasa


Open Source Software and Linux were the topics
of conversation for the KLUG open discussion meeting. Posted by Picasa

Tuesday, October 11, 2005



Presented By Dirk Bartley

What Is Subversion? http://subversion.tigris.org/

The goal of the Subversion project is to build a version
control system that is a compelling replacement for CVS
in the open source community. The software is released
under an Apache/BSD-style open source license. CVS is

currently still the most prevalent for coders and admins.

Who would need to use Subversion?
Programmers working on software with others and
anyone who is working on files as a group.

Dirk Bartley demonstrated the use of the version
control system Subversion from the client perspective.
There are graphical subversion clients available for
both Windows and Linux (X11). The objective was to
familiarize the attendees with how to use the Tortoise
(Windows) and eSVN (Linux) graphical clients. Also to
show the similarities between using Subversion clients
whether the client is from a command line, or a graphical
user interface from any operating system.

Tortoise http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/
eSVN http://esvn.umputun.com/

There were two SVGA video projectors running, one
with Windows and Tortoise running and the other with
SuSE 9.x running eSVN. Dirk did some running back
and forth between PC’s but he was demonstrating how
similar the GUI Subversion clients are across platforms.
He demonstrated the command line parallel with the GUI.

Commands or functions like Checkout, Import, Export,
Update, Commit, Add, Delete, Copy, Move, Merge, Switch,
Revert, Log, and Blame were looked at on the eSVN GUI.

Dirk also demonstrated difference detection software on
both platforms. This software becomes a standard tool
for those working on revised code of files.

(18 Linux Enthusiasts Attending)


Dirk Bartley Describes What Subversion Users Need to Know!
He demonstrated that in both Windows and Linux with a GUI. Posted by Picasa


Tigris.org: Open Source Software Engineering Tools Posted by Picasa

Tuesday, October 04, 2005



Hosted by KLUG Chairperson John Bridleman

There were no new faces to repeat the standard opening
comments and no speaker introductions were needed tonight.
John Bridleman let the meeting steer itself and that seemed
like it worked out for the best. With the thoughts of 2005
GEEK JEOPARDY repeatedly bubbling up in each conversation,
it is less than a month away and the tension is noticeable.
The Geek Jeopardy competition will be celebrated on
Tuesday October 25th at 7PM at the Chamber of Commerce.

Back in the corner, Alan Tanner sat with a Dell PC with the
side panel removed. He had a laptop drive attached to his
PC’s drive cable with a powered adapter. He was attempting
to recover the files on this failing drive. That seemed to

go well. KLUG Installmaster Andrew Thompson was working
his magic with solid Linux support. Andrew was able to boot
from a CD-ROM on a PC that had no hard drives installed.

Tyler and a friend were in the middle of the room with a
large 24 port router sitting between them. There was a
network install with the box being prepared for dual boot
operation. The remote Debian network install looked like a
success. I did hear someone mention that there was a GRUB
error 21 Master Boot Record missing and that the guy really
needed the stuff on the Windows drive partitions. Looked
like Adam was lending a hand. So many different Linux
distributions and infinite hardware configurations make it
all a miracle. Some people appear to know there way around
any Linux OS. Install Guide for Debian Linux Distribution:

When in the back of the room to get cookies and pretzels,
one could hear a conversation between Todd Pillars and
Mark Jones generally about VOIP and the Asterisk Project.

Bill Hollett and Adam Williams were quietly discussing an
implementation of SOAP ("Simple Object Access Protocol")
over on the less crowded side of the room. A SOAP message
is fundamentally a one-way transmission between SOAP

In the center of the room was a general technology discussion
that ranged from Open Source topics to theories about the
causes and impact of the high gasoline prices. Adam Williams,
Dirk Bartley, Bruce Smith, John Bridleman, and others were
vigorously sharing thoughts and ideas.

This meeting is intended for those who are just curious
about Linux and Open Source software, who need some
help getting started, or want some extra eyes to look at
your advanced problem. You can also bring your computer
in order to have Linux installed on it, at no charge; or
to try a Linux distribution that boots from CD and requires
no change to your system's current software. Make sure
you arrange to get the software you want ahead of time.

If you would like assistance with a specific problem please
e-mail a description to installmaster@kalamazoolinux.org,
so we can be sure someone familiar with your issue will be
available to assist you.

If you would like to install Linux on a system, or you
need help with Linux, please fill out a Help Request so
that someone can research your hardware/software, etc...
Installations and assistance are done by appointment
ONLY. You must fill out the appropriate form one week
prior to the meeting. If you only have general questions
or curiosity you don't need to do anything but show up!

(21 Linux Enthusiasts Attending)


Some of the 21 Linux Enthusiasts Who Joined
Into the Open Source Fun During KLUG's
October General Assistance Night Posted by Picasa


KLUG Past President Dirk Bartley Cycled
In To Personally Recognize the Partnership
Between KLUG and the Kalamazoo Chamber Posted by Picasa


USB RAM sticks, memory sticks, key chain drives,
geek sticks, whatever you call them... Tyler and
Adam tried to boot off one after a short ritual. Posted by Picasa


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